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Gowned dinners at Trinity under the microscope

Low attendance leads administration to cut weeknight late dinners

By Kaleem Hawa
Published: 2:56 am, 15 October 2012
Vol CXXXIII, No. 06 under
BERNARDA GOSPIC/THE VARSITY

An announcement by the Trinity College administration that formal late dinners on Mondays and Thursdays are to be cancelled has prompted an outcry from the college’s students and alumni, fueling debate about how best to address the difficulties confronting one of the Trinity’s most distinctive traditions.

Hosted Mondays through Thursdays, after the earlier and more casual 5.00 pm dinner concluded, late dinners required formal dress and gowns, and had staff serving meals to students, rather than employing the self-service typical of most dining halls on campus.

On Wednesdays, the dinners feature college faculty and alumni seated at the high table. Although these mid-week formal meals will continue, other late dinners that have been axed were beloved by some students as a way to foster a sense of community and provide an occasion for collective discourse.

“While these dinner had flourished in the past, recent years have shown them to be frequented largely by the same small group of regulars,” said Jonathan Steels, Trinity College dean of students. “Many attempts by student leaders have been made to increase attendance at the dinners, but the nature of their formal dress often serves as a disincentive for the college student looking for a quick meal between classes.”

Strategies to increase attendance included table francaise (for French speakers), wine receptions, hors d’oeuvres, and greater flexibility in dress code. The diverse efforts have largely failed to galvanize the student population.

Limited attendance, Steels argues, “taken in the context of Trinity College’s five million dollar-renovation to the dining hall” would exclude students with late classes from attending.

While some students were apathetic about the change, others, including those more interested in the college’s traditions, have sent letters requesting the dinners be reinstated. Some members of the college’s Faculty of Divinity have protested the change by wearing their gowns to normal dinners.

When pressed, the dean acknowledged that the administration was open to change should enough people want it. Steels stands by the decision though, and says it “was in the best interest of both the college and its students.”

Fourth-year student and treasurer of Trinity College’s student government Christopher Hogendoorn says he understands the difficulties of maintaining the tradition, but stressed that the dinners should be reformed rather than removed.

“As a regular attendee, I’m not ignorant of the obvious attendance problems,” wrote Hogendoorn in a letter addressed to the administration. “But with the enthusiasm of the first year class, and the new kitchen amenities in Strachan Hall, I had very high hopes that late dinners would become, as they have been in the past, well attended, and a social fixture of college life.”

Hogendoorn and others have also been critical of the process leading up to the cancellation as well. Hogendoorn says the decision was “largely unilateral” and didn’t adequately involve notifying or consulting the student body. He is also concerned by the fact that the decision was made before the current incoming class had a chance to truly experience the dinners and make up their minds.

“Students at the college, had they known that late dinner was on the chopping block, would have been very supportive of its continuity,” said Trinity College Dramatic Society president and frosh week co-chair Bryn Orth-Lashley.

Pointing to Trinity’s system of student self-governance, Orth-Lashley says that the college prides itself on its commitment to student involvement and autonomy, and believes that the decisions should come from the students themselves.

“People don’t have to go to late dinners to support it,” said Orth-Lashley. “It is faulty logic to assume that those who don’t attend late dinners support its demise. Many people enjoy the mere fact that the tradition exists and that the student body is somehow a part of it.”

Former head of non-residents at Trinity College Jonathan Scott disagrees and says, “for at least the past five years, the college’s senate has discussed changes to meal plans and service options at its community affairs committee. These changes have been on students’ radar all that time.”

But some, like student head of Trinity college Sam Greene, believe these arguments are largely unnecessary and that blaming the decision-making process simply “obfuscates the issue.”

“I think all of us would have preferred better communication and more clarity on this. Ultimately, though, very little is being changed. Instead of being upset about phasing out the parts of a tradition that have faced rapidly declining participation, let’s focus on improving the remaining dinners that are a valued hallmark of the Trinity experience,” said Greene.

  • Hardy Weinberg

    This is outrageous and a complete travesty! Every uoft student knows that Trinity is the Griffindor of the university! The most balanced and corageous of all students. We must have robes for dinner! I will for sure bring this up with my usual overt outrage at the next TCM!
    I get that numbers are down as many of the more recently arrived students cannot afford to get dressed up or the robes needed for formal dinner. But how else will we true Trins show our white privilage, oops, I mean ancient traditions!

    • Tom

      I’m not exactly a big trin fan either, but whenever somebody uses the words “white privilege” it always pisses me off

      • Hardy Weinberg

        Sorry about that, like i said it was a mistake, cause I am white and I dont feel any privilage. What i meant to say it is to remind other students who cannot go of Trin Privilage, I mean Trin Heritage!

  • David

    Great article. I like that it’s unbiased either way and accurately depicts the view of both the college administration and upset students. As someone who goes to Trin and never attended late dinners, it’s easy to say that we need to get rid of them because they inconvenience other students.

    I personally believe though, that what sets our college apart is our traditions and that whatever process or decision that weakens those traditions must be accepted in a democratic way by all of the college’s students.

  • Sumedh

    These protests are total rubbish. The Dean is absolutely right in saying that no one goes to late dinners anyways and that it just makes it annoying for the rest of us if we want to go to dinner after 6. I get that the author had to show both sides of the story and I’m happy he did but one side is clearly right!

  • TrinStudent

    Obfuscating the issue? Many students, though sad to see late dinners go, are actually more concerned that they were in no way consulted. I hardly see this as obfuscating the issue, when for many, it is the heart of this issue. Trinity has always been a college that has an enormous amount of autonomy. To let this kind of unilateral decision making on part of the administration take place without questioning it seems like an effective way to lose our grip on that.

    To see late dinner go is a great loss for a select few. The only difference now is that another select few, do not have to leave to the dining hall at 6:10, or go grab a gown. I think it is easy to say that those who attended late dinner, have lost more than those who have gained from this. Promises for those who have enjoyed late have either been broken, or horribly executed (High tables on Tuesday). (Not to mention that those who claim Late Dinner and High Table are the same have little sense of either).

    There is no extra financial cost. Trinity has two dining halls, so students who do not wish to partake can go have casual dinner in Melinda Seaman. Attendance likely would have increased with our recent Strachan renovations.